I just checked the top 50 live streams in English by viewer count. Exactly one of the fifty (it's not even in the top half) fits your characterization.

If you don't filter by English (or anything else), it's only two in the Top 200 right now. One of them is dancing (which then seems fine to me), one is doing ASMR and her outfit today isn't even that much of a "titty streamer". And zero in hot tubs.

Didn't expect HN to fall for the incel memes like that. Also didn't think I need to give that advice here, but Twitch's frontpage and suggestions in the sidebar are personalized, so if you see those kind of streams regularly, it might be your surfing behavior.

That does not mean that Twitch doesn't have some problems in their moderation/admin team, but especially the "titty streamer / hot tub" problem isn't as big as some try to make it out to be.

I've never been on Twitch before. Decided to check it out to test your comments.

Popular live channels on top is all games, 2/6 appears to be DOTA. Next section shows popular categories. Top category is Just Chatting, followed by a bunch of games. Next section is popular Just Chatting channels and the top two both have "try on bikini" in the title.

So that is what a first impression on twitch looks like without any personalization: mostly games, with some kind of mild erotica front and center. It would be easier to ignore the erotica if it wasn't so discordant with the rest of the content...

At the moment there are 3 somewhat known hot tube-streamers on twitch, and they are brought up by the haters all the time. Which is kind if a joke, considering that there are >1 million others streamers at the same time. I'm curious how bad twitchs bubble-effect must be for people to be so limited in their experience.

Currently when I visit twitch of the 4 streams they recommend me (https://www.twitch.tv/directory/following) they show:

- some sleeping stream "HE WOKE UP widepeepoHappy !SUBATHON !GIFTCAP DON'T FORGET TO SUBSCRIBE :)"

- hot tub stream 1 "HOT TUB BIKINI TRY ONSUBATHONSHAMELESS!IG: amouranth!socials"

- league of legends tournament "GEN vs T1ㅣ2021 LCK Spring PLAYOFFS Round 2"

- hot tub stream 2 "CUTEST HOT TUB GIRL ™ © 1080PIG: indiefoxx.tv!socials "

I'm generally watching niche content - diablo2, starcraft, some league of legends here and there. Never shown an ounce of interest in hot tub streams or similar content. Still, that's how my recommendations look all the time over the last weeks, at least at this time of the day. Trying to nudge me to that kind of content.

I can understand people criticizing that.

Then remove them from your recommandations if you don't like them.

Twitch has no way to figure out the content of a stream, so the recommandations are mostly based on indirect data, like category and social overlapping between streamers and viewers. If you have the two top boobie-streamers in your recommendation, then usually there is a stronger connection between them and your prefered bubbles.

But on another point, you proove what I wrote. It's always the same 2-3 names which appear in those complains.

It's a bit of an incel meme. One tried to sue twitch for $25 million for making him into a masturbation addict or some such thing.

Those streams certainly receive less aggressive moderation.

Just wait a few hours. You picked the wrong time.

As much as I love some of the streamers on that platform, I think I gotta agree. Twitch is going downhill hard and fast.

Its just becoming more like reddit. Reddit has some great information and content if you know where to look and don't stick to the most popular subs. Twitch is the same way.

Twitch has some great programming/game dev/traditional art/digital art streams. Also some great channels where people build mechanical keyboards and sometimes other electronics stuff.

I just wish it was easier to permanently filter out channels that you don't want to see. It lets you do it for your current recommendations pretty easily but when browsing categories it would be nice to be able to just click on something and filter it out permanently. I'm not even just talking about the sexualized content, I should be able to do it for any reason. For example, so I can block the annoying EDM streams they insist on playing on the front page almost daily.

It's not just becoming more like reddit. Reddit still allows you to post porn and whatever you want in your own subreddits, and you can even make subreddits invite only.

Twitch inconsistently applies the ban hammer across the board. DMCA takedowns apply to everyone, even if it's your ringtone while you're coding with just 1 viewer. And takedowns rarely are given any sort of explanation, and if you aren't already a big enough streamer to create an uproar on twitter you're likely fucked.

And as little faith as I have in reddit's moderation, I have none in twitch whatsover. Trusting twitch's moderation team is like trusting facebook's privacy team. Yes, it really is that fucking awful.

> Reddit still allows you to post [...] whatever you want in your own subreddits, and you can even make subreddits invite only.

Reddit allows a lot, sure. But they don't allow _anything_, there are some things, while not illegal, are still off-limits. Like making fun of fat people. Sure, I agree, not every platform needs to host every idiots opinion, but if you go out with "We will not ban questionable subreddits" it feels slightly weird if you then reverse your position only weeks later.

I agree the moderation of twitch is much worse. I was referring to the quality of the content. There are worthwhile niches you can find on both sites.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I agree, there are lots of great small streamers on twitch.