> glued together example of an OS

This is a strange assertion when the implication is that Linux is somehow not "glued together" despite requiring distributions to literally glue the pieces together.

> Now if only if FreeBSD wasnt an slow, unstable, glued together example of an OS.

I really don't see how this kind of comment adds to the conversation. As jen20 wrote, GNU/Linux really is glued together.

Linux is great, but FreeBSD are in my opinion both more stable and less "glued together". Since you have a clear separation between the system and user installed packages, there usually are less things that breaks. In my experience of course.

To be fair, I was kind of anti BSD as well before giving it a real chance.

In any case, I really hope the BSD:s continue to grow. One OS is never a good thing, and Linux seems to eat up most of the market right now.

FreeBSD's point of distinction is that it's carefully designed and fitted together, compared to Linux's comparatively heavy use of glue.

I also haven't heard credible reports of it being slow, except for things it's not really used for (like drivers for consumer wifi cards).

Well Linux is just a kernel, so it's a bit unfair to call it glued together...but the rest (a ditro)...lot of glue and clay...sometimes also pure mud.

Don't forget the duct tape, bailing wire, and gum.

Nobody uses just the kernel alone, so I think it's fair to consider the other required components when looking at the system.

But FreeBSD is an operating system. The userland and kernel are developed together, in the same source tree AFAIK. With Linux you have to glue a user land on to use the kernel, which is a "distribution" which is actually an operating system.

Agreed? I thought we were talking about Linux

Linux is a Kernel...like you said, are you talking about

gnu/linux

musl/gnu/linux

musl/busybox/linux

libc++/uClibc/glibc/musl/busybox/matchbox/gnu/rpm/deb/tar.gz

any other distro/composition of software that runs on linux? You see the problem? Linux is a kernel, FreeBSD/Open/Net/Dragonfly are real OS's...with pkg's.

The grandparent of my post was:

>> FreeBSD's point of distinction is that it's carefully designed and fitted together, compared to Linux's comparatively heavy use of glue.

To which was offered:

> Well Linux is just a kernel, so it's a bit unfair to call it glued together...but the rest (a ditro)...lot of glue and clay...sometimes also pure mud.

So I pointed out that it is fair to call it glued together, because there's no other way to use Linux except with glue. This is applicable to any of GNU/Linux, Busybox/Linux, etc.

But one could get rid of the clay and mud...that was my point.

This is an article and thread about FreeBSD. Linux was invoked and compared to FreeBSD in a completely nonsensical way.

That’s what systemd is giving the Linux world, though. A carefully designed system for a lot of very essential things, so that distros will need to apply less glue.

>carefully designed system

Ehm...really? Are you making fun of us?

In this case, no.

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