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Re:2020 Had the Warmest September on Record, Data Shows by WorkLobster on Monday October 12, 2020 @06:23AM (#24753021)
A good resource for basic questions/misunderstandings such as these: https://www.nap.edu/resource/25733/interactive/

> How do scientists know that recent climate change is largely caused by human activities?

> Scientists know that recent climate change is largely caused by human activities from an understanding of basic physics, comparing observations with models, and fingerprinting the detailed patterns of climate change caused by different human and natural influences.

> Climate is always changing. Why is climate change of concern now?

> All major climate changes, including natural ones, are disruptive. Past climate changes led to extinction of many species, population migrations, and pronounced changes in the land surface and ocean circulation. The speed of the current climate change is faster than most of the past events, making it more difficult for human societies and the natural world to adapt.

Re:2020 Had the Warmest September on Record, Data Shows by raxxorrax on Monday October 12, 2020 @06:43AM (#24753113)
> Are you insane? Temp alone is NOT proof that their is man made global warming.

Technically correct I guess. Let us just say that the average temperature is rising from year to year. CO2 levels correlate very closely with this increase in temperature.

Let's say this correlation is not sufficient evidence and we know nothing about CO2 as a greenhouse gas. What would be the next best explanation?

Re:2020 Had the Warmest September on Record, Data Shows by georgeplusplus on Thursday October 22, 2020 @02:13AM (#24855358)
My point was We have no data on how much or rapidly the earth cooled during an ice age and any data presented For that would be extremely dubious at best. So again, correlation could be causation here and there is merit to limiting CO2 to see the effects but maybe the problem needs more studying instead of the proposed vast economic and social policy changes that aren’t guaranteed to work and will usurp tons of resources in the process.
Re:2020 Had the Warmest September on Record, Data Shows by jfim on Monday October 12, 2020 @06:29AM (#24753042)
While denying that it's man made is a red herring, does it actually matter if it is?

If a volcano erupts and the lava is coming your way, are you going to stand still because the lava isn't man's fault?

Re:2020 Had the Warmest September on Record, Data Shows by vondro on Monday October 12, 2020 @06:43AM (#24753114)
It actually makes sense for Climate Change Deniers to deny it's man made. Think about it - if it's not man made, then people don't need to adjust behavior at all since their behavior didn't cause the problem in the first place.

To them, cutting down emissions might be as inefficient solution for climate change as it is for solving the lava problem.

Re:2020 Had the Warmest September on Record, Data Shows by pjc50 on Monday October 12, 2020 @06:45AM (#24753130)
The reasoning is in the other direction: they're not going to change behaviour, therefore it's not man-made.
Re:2020 Had the Warmest September on Record, Data Shows by hardlianotion on Monday October 12, 2020 @07:00AM (#24753197)
I think most people, including myself, move from desired outcome to reasons why. Heck, I even do it for my mathematics.
Re:2020 Had the Warmest September on Record, Data Shows by jlokier on Monday October 12, 2020 @08:08AM (#24753558)
Reasoning backwards is fine. Going from desired outcome to figure out what would be necessary to produce it is useful.

It's another thing to work back from desired outcome to necessary facts and use it to deem those facts true, rather than testing if they are actually true.

Re:2020 Had the Warmest September on Record, Data Shows by jfim on Monday October 12, 2020 @07:01AM (#24753199)
That's an interesting take on it, hadn't seen it from that perspective.
Re:2020 Had the Warmest September on Record, Data Shows by georgeplusplus on Thursday October 22, 2020 @02:14AM (#24855363)
That’s quite ironic. If the planet is doing it then we are screwed no matter what so just live your life now.
Re:2020 Had the Warmest September on Record, Data Shows by mckirk on Monday October 12, 2020 @06:25AM (#24753028)
Correlation and causation, yes... Once correlation starts to wink at you and leaves their number on a napkin, it might be time to put the clues together though.