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Re:Abolish the Cash Bail System by imtringued on Monday October 12, 2020 @04:32AM (#24752495)
Maybe you should try reading the comment again. Nobody is advocating anything.

>It’s one of the most cruel and predatory systems that I can imagine

In fact, parent is voicing the same complaint you are voicing.

>Are you f'ing kidding me? Regardless of what crime you commit, you should be able to go home and see your family?

No, that's not what parent wrote. Parent described the current system and said he think it's crazy. Let me put it in your own words.

"Regardless of what crime you commit, you are not be able to go home and see your family because you don't have enough money" and the inverse "Regardless of what crime you commit, you are always able to go home and see your family if you do have enough money"

The cash bail system lets criminals escape while innocent people are stuck in jail. It's completely nonsensical. Lack of cash is not an indicator of guilt or crime.

> Do you even think about the implications of your ideas?

There are no ideas in the comment. Where do you see them?

Re:Abolish the Cash Bail System by pjc50 on Monday October 12, 2020 @04:14AM (#24752410)
sigh not the only criterion; people credibly accused of violent crimes or deemed a risk to the public should not be granted bail at all.

"You can beat your wife and then go back to your family if and only if you can borrow many thousands of dollars from a sketchy private agency" is also a stupid system.

Re:Abolish the Cash Bail System by serf on Monday October 12, 2020 @04:03AM (#24752359)
>What ridiculous world are you advocating for here? Do you even think about the implications of your ideas?

well, given that really atrocious crimes rarely have bail set, it seems as if the 'world being advocated' by the parent here is a world in which the punishment for your crime is not scaled by the amount of money you are capable of coming up with.

The perpetrator of a bail-set crime should not have less practical punishment for the crime simply because they paid their way out of part of the punishment.

Re:Abolish the Cash Bail System by nobody9999 on Monday October 12, 2020 @09:20AM (#24754076)
>The perpetrator of a bail-set crime should not have less practical punishment for the crime simply because they paid their way out of part of the punishment.

Except pretrial detention, which is where bail comes in, is done prior to adjudication (plea bargain, trial, etc.), not after.

As such, the folks we're talking about haven't been convicted of anything. And if, as is supposed to be the case, that one is innocent until proven guilty, you're advocating for innocent people to be punished.

Is that actually your stance on this, or were you not understanding the situation?

Re:Abolish the Cash Bail System by aqme28 on Monday October 12, 2020 @01:59AM (#24751796)
Just to be clear-- you're arguing for the person's financial status to determine whether or not they see their family, not their crime.

OP was saying that your financial status should not matter.