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Re:The US is using the Guardian to justify jailing Assange f... by k1m on Friday September 25, 2020 @09:36AM (#24589541)
> Assange and Wikileaks dumped the entire set of files, without redactions, while the Guardian, Der Spiegel, NYTimes were spending time and resources trying to redact them

Sorry, this is plainly false. This article and the testimony of people involved with Wikileaks (see Craig Murray's reporting for that) show that Assange was actually incredibly careful and diligent in redacting. It was the newspapers that were eager and impatient to publish.

It was a Guardian journalist's recklessness that let everyone see the unredacted cables, not Assange's.

Re:The US is using the Guardian to justify jailing Assange f... by nojito on Friday September 25, 2020 @11:37AM (#24590930)
This is blatantly false. Wikileaks released personally identifiable information for numerous at-risk groups around the country.

To this day, those files are still available.

https://apnews.com/article/b70da83fd111496dbdf015acbb7987fb

>In the past year alone, the radical transparency group has published medical files belonging to scores of ordinary citizens while many hundreds more have had sensitive family, financial or identity records posted to the web. In two particularly egregious cases, WikiLeaks named teenage rape victims. In a third case, the site published the name of a Saudi citizen arrested for being gay, an extraordinary move given that homosexuality can lead to social ostracism, a prison sentence or even death in the ultraconservative Muslim kingdom.

>The AP independently found three dozen records pertaining to family issues in the cables — including messages about marriages, divorces, missing children, elopements and custody battles. Many are very personal, like the marital certificates that reveal whether the bride was a virgin. Others deal with Saudis who are deeply in debt, including one man who says his wife stole his money. One divorce document details a male partner’s infertility. Others identify the partners of women suffering from sexually transmitted diseases including HIV and Hepatitis C.

Re:The US is using the Guardian to justify jailing Assange f... by k1m on Friday September 25, 2020 @12:30PM (#24591529)
> This is blatantly false.

I was replying to "Assange and Wikileaks dumped the entire set of files". "The entire set of files" referring to the Cablegate documents, not the ones you're referring to here.

Wikileaks have already addressed the ones you're referring to in a letter to the AP: https://www.docdroid.net/Gi3unfx/letter-to-ap-fv-pdf

See also: https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/assange-smear-23-he-endan...

Re:The US is using the Guardian to justify jailing Assange f... by toyg on Friday September 25, 2020 @10:19AM (#24589994)
> Assange went around and blamed it on the Guardian.

A Guardian journalist published the password to the unredacted trove in his book. Without that action, there would have been no "unredacted release". Nobody went around anything.

Why would you go around spreading falsehoods?

Re:The US is using the Guardian to justify jailing Assange f... by maxmunzel on Friday September 25, 2020 @10:30AM (#24590160)
Do you have any sources for this? As far as I know, Assange went to great lengths redacting sources.
Re:The US is using the Guardian to justify jailing Assange f... by meroes on Friday September 25, 2020 @09:42AM (#24589587)
Ya hackernews is a terrible place to discuss Assange accurately I have learned.
Re:The US is using the Guardian to justify jailing Assange f... by seattledev on Friday September 25, 2020 @11:15AM (#24590662)
Assange and Elon Musk are the two hot button names that get the low-information commenters around here really upset
Re:The US is using the Guardian to justify jailing Assange f... by mrlala on Friday September 25, 2020 @10:59AM (#24590504)
Agreed- I get very confused on this site. Sometimes it seems like most people are able to have rational discussions without much bias, based in facts.. other times there are still topics where I might as well be talking to someone on reddit.