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Re:Facebook's new policy bans blackface and some Jewish ster... by Ono-Sendai on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @05:14AM (#24129963)
Yes, they are known as hate-facts.
Re:Facebook's new policy bans blackface and some Jewish ster... by kingkawn on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @05:24AM (#24130004)
Just because there are jews in media does not mean that “Jews control the media.” You are casually stepping into a history of discrimination that has continuously led back to genocide, each time beginning as just these sort of indignant observations.
Re:Facebook's new policy bans blackface and some Jewish ster... by Nesco on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @05:34AM (#24130050)
I totally agree with you, but you have also to agree then (to stay coherent) that the fact some structures of powers are predominantly held by white men does not necessary mean there is a systemic racism and a white privilege. Otherwise the same reasoning could be applied to say that “the J00s control the media and Hollywood”
Re:Facebook's new policy bans blackface and some Jewish ster... by hundredand10 on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @05:42AM (#24130120)
It's splitting hairs, really. "Jews control the media" has taken on negative connotations, but it is basically just a more concise version of an objective observation like this, for example: "Jews are extraordinarily overrepresented in all mainstream forms of media in the West, including Hollywood, news, and television, especially in positions with significant influence over the content, such as producers, executives, and writers."

I don't accept that I have a moral obligation to ignore reality (or worse, deny it).

Re:Facebook's new policy bans blackface and some Jewish ster... by luckylion on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @05:39AM (#24130098)
> Just because there are jews in media does not mean that “Jews control the media.”

It's a matter of how you define "control" and "Jews", I suppose. "Jews" as in "all jewish people"? Obviously not. "Control" as in "total control over all media companies" also obviously not.

Individual Jews in powerful positions of plenty of powerful companies at disproportionate rates? Probably yes, at least for the US, less so in Europe for obvious reasons.

In the end, I guess Facebook should simply outlaw all blanket statements. None of them are true, all of them are oversimplifying complex issues and are, if believed, harmful. But then again, what would remain if they did so?

Re:Facebook's new policy bans blackface and some Jewish ster... by Nesco on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @05:30AM (#24130033)
At least in Western Europe yes, noticing some patterns is forbidden by the law.

I have personally ancestors that died during the Shoah so I am especially sensible to the damage antisemitism can do but it’s getting downright absurd at this point

Edit: more precisely I do not believe that censoring such speeches can do any good. If the content of the speech is false there will be reactance and a Streisand like effect and if’s true it will only lead to more comptent and resentment.

Re:Facebook's new policy bans blackface and some Jewish ster... by bkor on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @05:41AM (#24130109)
Could you give me a pointer to the Dutch law regarding banning noticing some patterns? Thanks!
Re:Facebook's new policy bans blackface and some Jewish ster... by Nesco on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @05:49AM (#24130150)
I was speaking from a French perspective and I broadly thought it was pretty similar in most of W.E. I do not know the legislation and the jurisprudence in the Dutch case. Mea culpa if am wrong outside of France