[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/20/christopher...
Not really sure what else to say, even if he had done something to provoke a response aside from shouting(you can read the multiple articles for details) he wasn't resisting arrest, was stationary and the federal agent broke his hand in two places[1].
I can't think of any situation where beating the shit out of someone who's standing still and not reacting is an appropriate response. Much less from someone who is expected to uphold the law and supposedly trained to deal with stressful situations.
[1] https://twitter.com/Tazerface16/status/1284849286237151232
federal agent broke his hand in two places
That's a key point, and my concern is that some reports suggest that some of the arrests are being made in a manner that's "off the record", no paperwork done, officially never happened. If that's true, then there's no transparency, no due process, no accountability.
Really? I saw it covered relentlessly until it was shut down.
> If the US Marshall are arresting people with either warrants or holding them with evidence/charges, I'm totally okay with that.
That is not what is being contested. There is video evidence of am incident where "masked federal agents in camouflage gear, with no badges identifying who they work for, arrested a man without telling him what he was being charged with or reading him his Miranda rights. They put him in an unmarked van and drove away." [0]
[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2020/07/18/federa...
The person arrested can challenge that if there is no probably cause (with the right attorney, there is money to be had there) but most don't because ... there's usually probably cause.
What is the requirement in your mind and legally to identify as LEO? The feds in Portland allegedly have the word POLICE on their shirts and that's it. Is that sufficient? Would you follow orders from someone in tacticool gear with the word POLICE on it?
Um, yes? That's literally the law. A police officer only has to identify AS an officer. They don't have to identify which branch (police, FBI, etc.) "Police" is enough. Ask any defense attorney.
> It is of unclear legality whether a federal agent can arrest a someone for violating state law
State law? They're literally destroying federal buildings. The federal agents are not enforcing ANY state laws. They are only enforcing federal laws:
Some have almost surely tried to vandalize federal buildings and others who've been arrested have protested peacefully, and still others have only violated state law. None have taken drastic action that would actually destroy a building. I don't care for hyperbole on such serious topics.
All that said I scrolled through your comments. I think at best we won't have a productive conversation on this topic, so I won't invest my time further in it.
It's illegal.
I saw a bumper sticker on a large diesel pickup truck the other day: "I identify as a Prius." If I say I "identify" as a policeman, is that good enough in your book?