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Re:Bicycles from Sketches (2016) by reitanqild on Friday June 12, 2020 @09:16AM (#23498893)
You are heavily punished for this comment but instead of giving you another flag or downvote I hope there is a learning opportunity here:

Think if you met someone who said any of these things while you were listening:

- There are adults who cannot fish!

- There are adults who cannot swim!

- There are adults who cannot milk a cow if their life depends on it!

- There are adults who cannot tell you 6 teams from premier league

- There are adults who cannot tell you the rules of baseball, basketball, football

- There are adults who cannot say even half of the American states or capitals

- There are adults who cannot tell you which countries are members of the European Union

- There are adults who cannot drive a car

- etc

It is frightening!

Or not. We are just different. And for the record, more than two of the bullet points above covers me, a highly successful software engineer :-)

Not everyone has the same skillset, the same background etc.

Once we learn to respect others for what they are not for what they are not, we can make progress.

I recommend you edit it and I'll try to delete or empty my comment afterwards :-)

Edit: I see two hours have passed now so it is too late anyway. My advice still stands for another time: People can be excellent in most areas of live and still struggle mightily in others, at least that is my understanding.

Re:Bicycles from Sketches (2016) by egypturnash on Friday June 12, 2020 @10:45AM (#23499714)
I am a professional artist; drawing stuff from out of my head and making it look plausible, if not actually correct, is literally my day job.

I have spent multiple decades practicing to be able to do this. Everything that I can draw out of my head and make look plausible rests on top of a solid foundation of spending time looking at real-world examples of the thing, or photos of the thing, and working from them.

There is a huge hump that artists almost inevitably have to get over somewhere in the transition from "amateur" to "pro": amateurs almost inevitably convince themselves that they need to be able to draw anything with zero reference, and if they can't somehow magically do it they are a failure; pros will happily draw a lot of stuff with no reference, but the instant they realize they don't know what a thing looks like, they will put down their pencil and go find something to work from.

Part of being a pro artist used to be maintaining a "morgue" - you would be constantly on the lookout for photos of things you thought you'd have to draw someday, and you'd clip and file them. The advent of image search has made this less necessary, but I certainly still have a few shelves full of coffee table books full of really nice photos of distinctive stuff - I have an entire book that is nothing but photographs of staircases.

How does the human body work? How do all its muscles sheath the bones and organs, how do you break it down into basic shapes that you can quickly put on the canvas and then flesh out into a realistic drawing? Which parts should you exaggerate when you want to caricature a particular pose? Which parts should you not bother with more than a basic rendering of to best serve the needs of the drawing at hand? That alone is a body of knowledge that artists have to spend years cramming into their head before they can be a pro. We regularly circulate little tip sheets[1] that talk about the ways we have found to simplify these things.

How much of your day-to-day work as a programmer comes out of your head? How much of it is looking through documentation and searching Stack Overflow?

1: https://theetheringtonbrothers.blogspot.com/p/every-how-to-t...

Re:Bicycles from Sketches (2016) by jrockway on Friday June 12, 2020 @11:06AM (#23499971)
A bicycle is a complicated object that has many forgettable parts. Everyone knows that there are two wheels (bi-cycle) and that there's a triangle formed from the down tube, top tube, and seat tube. Except, the triangle has a 4th side to hold the steerer and fork (the head tube). Then there are the other details. The handlebars attach to a stem, which attaches to a steerer tube, which goes through the head tube with bearings on each side, and finally tapers at a "rake angle" to actually hold the hub of the front wheel. There is also the rear triangle that consists of the seat stays and chainstays (and the seat tube). You have to put the saddle somewhere, that's attached to a seatpost that goes inside the seat tube and is secured by clamping it in there. With all those in place, the rest is easy -- where the wheels, pedals / bottom bracket, and chain end up are all very natural.

The problem is how often the bicycle is extolled as a simple triangle with some handwaving and two wheels. Turns out all that handwaving is quite complicated. The triangle becomes a shape with 4 edges. There are actually two triangles. And there are complicated details in joining the seat and fork to the bike.

So... I don't think these people are dumb. They have been mislead by "it's just a triangle" when it's actually nothing like a triangle. The devil is in the details.

Re:Bicycles from Sketches (2016) by joejoint on Friday June 12, 2020 @09:49AM (#23499199)
Next to the name and age it's the profession. Here are some you think should not be allowed to vote.

Anna, 24 - Student. Alessandro, 30 - Doctor. Federico, 32 - Professor. Martino, 27 - Doctor.