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Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by mhh__ on Monday May 18, 2020 @05:07AM (#23220111)
"According to the Mueller Report, WikiLeaks had received an email containing an encrypted file named "wk dnc link I .txt.gpg" from the Guccifer 2.0 GRU persona on July 14, which was four days after Seth Rich died.[80][81][82] In April 2018, Twitter direct messages revealed that even as Assange was suggesting publicly that WikiLeaks had obtained emails from Seth Rich, Assange was trying to obtain more emails from Guccifer 2.0, who was at the time already suspected of being linked to Russian intelligence.[83] BuzzFeed described the messages as "the starkest proof yet that Assange knew a likely Russian government hacker had the Democrat leaks he wanted. And they reveal the deliberate bad faith with which Assange fed the groundless claims that Rich was his source, even as he knew the documents' origin."[83]"

So, there's no evidence, other than people with at best a vested interest against the Clintons or obviously compromised by Russian intelligence - if you work with them once, they've got you.

Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by possiblelion on Monday May 18, 2020 @05:01AM (#23220078)
So you're trying to tell us that Russian APT teams could not have hacked into DNC servers because there might have been an internal leak instead?

Why not both? Why would Dutch intelligence care about supporting a random political faction in the United States?

Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by codr7 on Monday May 18, 2020 @05:08AM (#23220121)
Not at all, but judging from the amount of effort put into starting a war with Russia around the same time I find it more likely that the whole thing was made up.

US intelligence, Dutch intelligence, UK intelligence, German intelligence, who cares? They're all in the same boat, and it's sinking fast.

Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by celticninja on Monday May 18, 2020 @06:01AM (#23220446)
doesn't that put Russian intelligence in the same boat too, if those mentioned could be involved in disinformation then so could russia
Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by tzarvlad on Monday May 18, 2020 @10:32AM (#23222753)
Reality check: The Russian economy completely depends on gas and middle class salary is 200 euro (said Putin). So who is sinking here?

At the same time they colonized Crimea, fought a war with Georgia. Who is starting wars here?

You might not like intelligence work, but that's another story.

Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by coldtea on Monday May 18, 2020 @10:44AM (#23222937)
>At the same time they colonized Crimea, fought a war with Georgia. Who is starting wars here?

Well, one could say those who befriended and armed their neighbourhood states like Georgia to use them against them, or helped install Nazi sympathisers toppling the legitimate government in Ukraine?

Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by vetinari on Monday May 18, 2020 @05:38AM (#23220301)
> What never ceases to amaze me is how otherwise seemingly intelligent people blindly believe

Why does it amaze you? If you sustain your attention in one direction, you will lack it in another.

Germans have a beautiful expression: "fachidiot", that perfectly captures the underlying issue.