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Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco... by save_ferris on Thursday March 05, 2020 @10:22AM (#22494235)
This isn’t true. Numerous countries have public healthcare systems that service the public successfully, like Singapore.

Sure, you can pay to access the private system, which is a nominal amount compared to what we pay in the US.

The US ranks among the worst of the first world nations in terms of access to and quality of healthcare[0]. Just look at our hospital borne MRSA infection rates.

The idea that the US delivers consistent, quality care across the nation is laughably false.

0: https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/quality/among-11-count...

Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco... by seszett on Thursday March 05, 2020 @10:24AM (#22494250)
It seems Americans often believe that, but virtually nobody in Western Europe would even think of going to the US for healthcare. I would assume the same for Canadians.

I have no idea if that's actually true, but the widespread opinion is that the ~free (it depends a lot between countries, it's usually simply affordable, rather than free) healthcare here is much better than what a normal person can afford in the US.

Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco... by rogerkirkness on Thursday March 05, 2020 @01:43PM (#22496626)
I'm Canadian, it's not nearly as good as paid healthcare in the US (especially high end paid healthcare). Giant wait times for things you can pay to do in the US.
Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco... by jasonlotito on Thursday March 05, 2020 @10:28AM (#22494297)
> It seems Americans often believe that, but virtually nobody in Western Europe would even think of going to the US for healthcare. I would assume the same for Canadians.

This is not true. It's just ignored because people would rather believe that universal healthcare is infallible. We moved from Canada to the US precisely because of healthcare for our children. In Canada, care was non-existant and the private services were expensive. In the US, it was the complete opposite.

Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco... by allannienhuis on Thursday March 05, 2020 @10:54AM (#22494603)
universal health care has never meant that every possible heath care need is met without cost. It means that access to the covered services is universally available. Which of course isn't true in an absolute sense (residency requirements etc), but is true in most practical senses.
Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco... by jasonlotito on Thursday March 05, 2020 @03:25PM (#22497767)
> It means that access to the covered services is universally available.

I know. These are services that the state was legally supposed to provide but could not. Canada failed my children. It was disgusting.

Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco... by SketchySeaBeast on Thursday March 05, 2020 @10:47AM (#22494517)
Do your children have special needs? It never even crossed my mind to move to the United States. I imagine given my profession I could get a job with decent benefits, but I can't imagine wanting to move to the states for the health care, unless I had a special requirement.
Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco... by jasonlotito on Thursday March 05, 2020 @03:23PM (#22497742)
> Do your children have special needs?

Autism. The "care" provided in Canada is horrid.

> I imagine given my profession I could get a job with decent benefits,

This is not needed. The services we benefit from our state run, not based on my job.