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Re:Ask HN: What's the most valuable thing you can learn in a... by DoofusOfDeath on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @05:09AM (#21582547)
> The implication being that you just don't communicate between the time you first met and now?

That's not how I meant it. My point is that day-to-day life can be so consistently busy or hectic, that couples can spend way less time together than at first. And when you have kids, grad school, careers, etc., you can end up with a surprisingly long stretch of being more like business partners than soulmates.

There may not be much you can do about diverging interests, or the diminished levels of crazy love-hormones that you had at first. But taking time to really pay attention to each other, and have real emotional vulnerability and care for each other, can be pretty awesome.

Re:Ask HN: What's the most valuable thing you can learn in a... by toomuchtodo on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @11:52AM (#21585599)
My partner and I had several years of couples therapy together, and I can confirm your thesis in thread is spot on, great comments. You have to be able to grow together, live through the parts where that new relationship energy and passion are burning lower than they used to (and not act out destructively because of it, lots of ways to accomplish this, limited only by negotiated boundaries of the relationship), but still be able to check in with each other to ensure each other's needs are being met.

IMHO marriage is about finding a teammate, not a soul mate. It is more of a business partnership than about fairy tales and romance, and I think too many folks don't understand that upfront. TLDR: You are looking for a life cofounder; choose wisely.

Re:Ask HN: What's the most valuable thing you can learn in a... by koonsolo on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @07:29AM (#21583300)
After many years and kids you start to take each other for granted. If you are together around your 20's, people might have changed when they are in their 30's. Values might have shifted etc.

I learned this lesson the hard way after my wife told me she was getting a divorce. By then it's too late to fix it.

Talking to each other about practical stuff is still different than asking how you see your life.

Re:Ask HN: What's the most valuable thing you can learn in a... by Fnoord on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @07:15AM (#21583199)
Actually, if you are together, you might not have taken changes into account as they happen gradually. What OP meant is a means of an additional self-reflection. Which happens on top of current communication (or lack thereof).

It is also not just that the person you're with changes. You change as well, and you might not be aware of that. I mean, we all age. Society changes, too. For example, we're all running around with a PDA with a bunch of radios these days. We weren't 30 years ago.

Re:Ask HN: What's the most valuable thing you can learn in a... by DoofusOfDeath on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @07:28AM (#21583290)
The self-reflection part hadn't actually occurred to me, but it makes sense.

When I met my wife, "PDA" meant "public display of affection." I prefer that to my cell phone any day, albeit not with a bunch of radios. Only a HAM operator would be into that kind of thing.

Re:Ask HN: What's the most valuable thing you can learn in a... by Fnoord on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @07:33AM (#21583328)
Yeah, for my partner that is also what PDA stands for (both non-native English speakers).

As for the radio comment: cell phones, smartphones, laptops, smartwatches, IoT in general. It all has radios these days. If not merely Bluetooth or WiFi.