Some extremists carry the American flag. Does that mean someone who flies the American flag as a patriotic symbol are the same? Clearly not, because that would be attributing an extremist position to the majority using the most tenuous of associations. I don't see how that's a productive start for any discussion.
Just see my list of links below. It's undeniable that the very reason why people use the term MAGA is to voice support for hypernationalism, as a way to justify racism and hatred. This is what the term was created to be.
There's nothing tenuous in the association when the president himself is retweeting white nationalists using the term, when he's using it in blatantly racist ads, when it's used to justify walls, when it's used to justify abandoning international responsibilities, etc.
The flag wasn't created by a group campaigning on hate. MAGA however is.
MAGA is used by the majority as a show of support for the president, their party, and general conservative beliefs along with American pride. You refuse to believe those people, and yet believe any extremist who claims MAGA. Why?
If you have such dogmatic views and think half the country is "campaigning on hate" then unfortunately there's no rational debate to be had here. By the way, CNN had the leader of the white nationalists on prime time. By your own definition, CNN is now a white nationalist channel. Do you disagree?
"...openly supports the violent extremists that use these hats and similar symbols..."
I'd like to see all the many examples where people wearing maga hats and saying maga were "violent extremists".
Really interested to learn about all of this extremist violence I've apparently been missing by these maga people, looking forward to your response.
If you had read the news you'd know about it.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-uses-language-war-twitter-it-...
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...
https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-condemnation-of-white...
https://americasvoice.org/trumphatemap/
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/report-trump-invoked...
You're either lying or ignorant. In either case you're blatantly wrong.
The Nazi swastika is not used by anyone else. The majority is the extremists in that case, and they specifically changed the direction and removed the dots from the Asian versions to do so.
The president does not support violent extremists, openly or otherwise. "Nazis" are not a real problem anywhere in the modern world.
India haven't stopped using the swastika, actually. But the context of its use typically makes it obvious they do not use it to support nazi ideology.
You haven't read the president's Twitter stream? Because it's pretty blatant.
There's literally academic studies on it. You believe otherwise requires ignorance.
Also I'm from India and as I just explained, the Indian swastika is a different design and direction. The Nazi swastika is not used by anyone else, they made it for themselves which is why it's only associated with them.
If you won't listen to the majority group that uses the term telling you it's positive for them, and instead apply the extremist interpretation, then what exactly do you need to hear as a counter position? Seems like it's not open to any other understanding.
I have seen the arguments for "why it's positive for them" and they're bullshit. They're using it to justify racism and corruption and to defend politicians on their own side that even break the law (like a certain raid of a certain meeting concerning classified information).
I'm open to actual evidence, not just mere statements of disbelief. Can you provide counterevidence?