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Re:Social exclusion fuels extremism in young men
by malvosenior on Monday August 12, 2019 @06:15AM
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> The author of this particular column is a writer of feminist literature so of course her views are going to be extreme.
The Guardian is a mainstream publication, not an extremist one. They can publish whatever they want, Iām just saying this rhetoric is hateful, unhelpful and possibly part of the problem of male extremism mentioned in the OP.
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Re:Social exclusion fuels extremism in young men
by malvosenior on Monday August 12, 2019 @06:29AM
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> Except you didn't say that, instead you claimed all journalists in the mass media hold the views of one columnist in a left-leaning newspaper.
I did not say that.
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Re:Social exclusion fuels extremism in young men
by jevgeni on Monday August 12, 2019 @08:01AM
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You can rest your case all you want, you're still wrong. The language in the original comment did not imply ALL journalists. You are arguing against your own misunderstanding.
Re:Social exclusion fuels extremism in young men
by armada651 on Monday August 12, 2019 @09:03AM
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I claimed journalists in mass media as stated in the original comment.
I concede that he did not say all of them, but it doesn't even back up the claim of a single journalist holding that view.
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Re:Social exclusion fuels extremism in young men
by supercanuck on Monday August 12, 2019 @08:00AM
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sounds like he is being social excluded because he is a man.
Re:Social exclusion fuels extremism in young men
by point78 on Monday August 12, 2019 @08:27AM
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Say anything you want is a lie. Let's see some real hate speech in a column targeted at minorities. You won't. So why should it be tolerated for any group.
Re:Social exclusion fuels extremism in young men
by ljf on Monday August 12, 2019 @08:56AM
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Which part of the column was hate-speech?
Re:Social exclusion fuels extremism in young men
by dzamie on Monday August 12, 2019 @07:43AM
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>But... it's the column section? It's not journalism.
It is, however, a piece of work that the paper stands behind. If it were not, it should not be there; newspapers are curated, unlike, say, YouTube or a comments section.
>Are you saying mass media should stop the age-old tradition of the column section
We're saying they should exercise more discretion in what columns they publish. If they don't, they should give up any then-false pretense of being reliable, believable, reputable, etc. The local paper doesn't have to publish the column Crazy Herman sent in about how dragons are cultivating furries' minds for use as concubines, and doing so makes the paper look less respectable.
Plus, in a lot of online media, the Opinion columns are often interwoven among actual reporting, making it less obvious which each is. Especially with this format, which columns they choose to publish become part of the paper's image... and even if unintended, "I drink male tears" columns gives the idea that that publication supports dismissiveness of the emotions of men.