As a Taiwanese, I disagree completely. (1) Taiwan is not in China, geographically and politically . (2) KMT has already surrendered

So do educate us with facts. Because, you know, many of us don't think your position is correct, given what we think we know of history and politics. You may in fact know more, but merely stating the claim does nothing. It neither educates nor persuades - it merely argues.

Facts are, geographically it's entirely separate. Taiwan does not even intersect with China's convex-hull. (not that this matters)

Politically, Taiwan's de-facto sovereignty is always an internationally recognized fact.

And I do believe this has been an international consensus for years (except for China and [Winnie the pooh](https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855) of course)

There are a lot of people on the island that were there before the KMT arrived that don't consider it China or themselves Chinese.

The vast, vast majority of them are ethnic Chinese.

The thing to realise is that this is really a divide and conquer game by the West.

The West has always recognised that Taiwan is a part of China. Not least of course when the recognised government of China was the ROC government.

Now the West recognises the PRC as the government of China, but this means that trying to stroke an 'independentist' sentiment in Taiwan becomes a tactic to weaken them.

America, for one, recognizes Taiwan as an independent country ("province") and has enough weight that they can do that. Other countries, especially those in Europe, are not big enough to be able to do so and still maintain a trade relationship with China, and default to the choice that makes economical sense.

Taiwan is not in China. The democratic government in Taiwan does not consider itself to be under the sway of the more powerful, richer country that they lost a civil war to.

> Taiwan is in China

dude, NO IT'S NOT. and also please don't bring this sensitive political topic to a technical-based forum. It's like arguing Israel and Palestine, or who should own Kashmir

> Well, Taiwan is in China. What it is not is in the PRC. Do you mean the PRC's strategy to finish the job? Or do you not know about China?

> The reality is that the KMT will never agree to surrender to the Communist Party.

I do not think you know what you are saying.

Taiwan is nearby mainland China. It has, at times, been claimed and occupied by the current governments of China and Japan . China claims it because it's strategically important (it's also an ego thing), and the people of Taiwan, who are more Japanese than Chinese (thanks, ethnic cleansing!) are not keen to join the PRC (the communistic current governing party in China). The people of Taiwan have recognized and declared allegiance to the ROC (the Republic of China, an attempt at democratic government) which was more or less ended when the Communist Party lost, threw a temper tantrum, and raised an insurrection. The ROC was on its way to becoming a proper Democratic country when it failed to civil war (because the Communists didn't want to recognize that they'd lost). Taiwan has essentially declared allegiance to the "rest of China" on the condition that the Republic of China, a democracy, is the governing power.

During the Communist takeover, political refugees went to Taiwan, and brought their democratic ideals along with them, which have grown and flourished- today, Taiwan is a Parliamentary democracy with fist-fights in Parliament. They're government is healthy, and they want to stay that way.

The issue here is that the Foxxcon corp. has probably been subsidized by China at some point, directly leading to profit for the CEO, who will then want to edge closer to Taiwan. This is very dangerous, and I worry that if he gets elected, he may pull Taiwan, as we know it, to the edge of extinction.

This is an alt account for hopefully obvious reasons.

Some links, because I can't edit:

https://guidetotaipei.com/article/is-taiwan-part-of-china

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China_(1912–1949)#...

> the people of Taiwan, who are more Japanese than Chinese

This really sounds bizarre to me. What are you referring to here? When are/were the people of Taiwan more Japanese than Chinese?

I also found this statement bizzare, but after some thinking it kind of makes sense, in a way. It depends on how you define “China”. Taiwan keeps a lot of things from the olden days, but that China is very, very different from the one today (thanks to the Cultrual Revolution). Japan also gets to keep much of the same China heritage, making Taiwan more similar to Japan culturally than to China today. CCP makes everything wierd.

The only way that Taiwan will be in China in the near future will be if there is a conquering war from China invading Taiwan, or a long period of attrition where China wears down the west and succeeds in putting sycophantic leaders in charge of Taiwan who weaken her military. My background is I'm an american who went to college and learned about history.

> The only way that Taiwan will be in China in the near future will be if there is a conquering war from China invading Taiwan, or a long period of attrition where China wears down the west and succeeds in putting sycophantic leaders in charge of Taiwan who weaken her military. [emphasis added]

Sycophantic leaders are really bad, sympathetic leaders are one of the first steps to getting there. That's part of why I'm concerned about this Foxconn (I think I mispelled it earlier) guy- he seems like an early stage in this.

I think we're both on the same page, it's the Not A Paid Shill guy that I'm worried about.