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Re:How do startups get their content marketing to work?
by julianshapiro on Sunday April 14, 2019 @05:55PM
(#19661941)
i'm the article's author. a moment ago, i came to hn as i normally do throughout the week. my heart skipped a beat* when i saw my tc post was on here; i didn't tell anyone to upvote. for whatever that's worth.
* it's unfortunate that my reaction to seeing myself on hn is less "cool, readers!" and more "oh no, i'm about to get ripped apart in the comments"
Re:How do startups get their content marketing to work?
by revvx on Sunday April 14, 2019 @06:00PM
(#19661969)
HN has a lot of anti-voting ring protection, so I doubt it would have stayed in #2 for long if this were the case.
Re:How do startups get their content marketing to work?
by snazz on Sunday April 14, 2019 @06:13PM
(#19662015)
There’s been some talk about this in other threads, but I’m still confused how it could tell the difference between a voting ring and a legitimately popular article without having many false positives.
Re:How do startups get their content marketing to work?
by ollerac on Sunday April 14, 2019 @06:27PM
(#19662069)
I’m curious about this too, but I don’t think they’ll talk openly about it. For some hints, you could probably look at what data Google reCaptcha collects. The newest version (v3) doesn’t even require a user to click anything except a single button.
I bet Reddit and HN use timing, browsing time, clicks, and mouse movements, among other things to tell if a lot of visitors are just coming to the site to upvote a single story or are genuinely browsing the site before coming across something interesting.
Re:How do startups get their content marketing to work?
by revvx on Sunday April 14, 2019 @07:19PM
(#19662268)
I avoid talking about because I don't want people getting ideas, but it's easy to detect voting rings with HTTP referers and voting history alone
Re:How do startups get their content marketing to work?
by TeMPOraL on Sunday April 14, 2019 @06:23PM
(#19662049)
Content marketing is usually easy enough to tell; even if upvoted by a voting ring, it'll be mercilessly flagged down.
Re:How do startups get their content marketing to work?
by marktangotango on Sunday April 14, 2019 @07:45PM
(#19662355)
The flip side I don’t hear about is using up/down votes to shape discussions. You’ll often read discussion on the same topic with drastically different sentiment at the top.
Re:How do startups get their content marketing to work?
by gumby on Sunday April 14, 2019 @05:54PM
(#19661938)
Not clear that you can really monetize HN subscribers except if you have something that would probably rise in the rankings on its own.
Of course that's what all anti-SEO people would say. Hmm.