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Re:Amazon Pushes Facial Recognition to Police, Critics See S... by coenhyde on Tuesday May 22, 2018 @01:13PM (#17127550)
Are you aware of how much money it costs society to send someone to prison? A LOT more than a rehab program.

- You have direct cost of imprisonment ~$60k a year

- The costs of prosecution (no idea what this costs though)

- Once someone has been to prison they are much more likely to be involved in crime again, and become a repeat customer of the industrial prison complex

- We loose a tax payer

- The perp will have no retirement fund, thus the government is on the hook again during retirement years.

- Increased insurance costs for everyone else due to a higher crime rate

I don't have the time or resources to do an accurate cost estimation but we could do some basic napkin math. Lets say 10 years in prison during their lifetime and a loss of $15k tax per year over a 30 year period (due to time spent in prison and loss of earning potential once they're out).

(10 * $60k) + (30 * $15k) = $1,050,000 loss to the State. That's a shit load of money. Crime prevention looks a lot cheaper now doesn't it?

Re:Amazon Pushes Facial Recognition to Police, Critics See S... by SubiculumCode on Tuesday May 22, 2018 @01:18PM (#17127611)
Many people, unfortunately, want blood and 'justice', not helping hands and forgiveness for thieves. Perhaps if we highlight just how much 'torture' addicts feel as they go off drugs in a rehab hardliners might be convinced to support drub rehab as a fully funded public policy.
Re:Amazon Pushes Facial Recognition to Police, Critics See S... by gowld on Tuesday May 22, 2018 @02:15PM (#17128133)
You haven't shown that (successful) rehab costs less.
Re:Amazon Pushes Facial Recognition to Police, Critics See S... by mfringel on Tuesday May 22, 2018 @01:08PM (#17127510)
Two things:

1. That's a non-sequitur. Drug rehab programs that are part of prison diversion schemes are implicitly a matter of public policy. A single individual writing a single check is meaningless in that context.

2. "Saint or GTFO" is a debate tactic used by the foolish who think their opponent is a bigger fool.

Re:Amazon Pushes Facial Recognition to Police, Critics See S... by SubiculumCode on Tuesday May 22, 2018 @01:11PM (#17127525)
"Saint or GTFO"

As an aside, I have not heard that type of argument paraphrased this way, but it is terribly amusing.

Re:Amazon Pushes Facial Recognition to Police, Critics See S... by mrobot on Tuesday May 22, 2018 @01:08PM (#17127506)
Or we could curb the landlords and build some decent real public housing for a lot of people that is not the prison system. Have you considered "hacking" the problem of these landowners who charge too much?
Re:Amazon Pushes Facial Recognition to Police, Critics See S... by kevinh on Tuesday May 22, 2018 @01:02PM (#17127447)
You're assuming that drug rehab programs are a net cost to society.
Re:Amazon Pushes Facial Recognition to Police, Critics See S... by syshum on Tuesday May 22, 2018 @01:03PM (#17127455)
Why take 50% of the money used to lock people away in a metal cage and fund the best drug rehab program every conceived by man.

I dont think you have any idea how much money is in the prison system today

Re:Amazon Pushes Facial Recognition to Police, Critics See S... by SubiculumCode on Tuesday May 22, 2018 @12:57PM (#17127411)
Ha! I would support any tax that pays for real drug rehabs...much cheaper than prison and better chance to fix the real problem.
Re:Amazon Pushes Facial Recognition to Police, Critics See S... by FireBeyond on Tuesday May 22, 2018 @03:23PM (#17128665)
Unfortunately, knowing our luck it will barely be more than an AA/NA meeting, perhaps with random UA testing, that some contractor charges the government Passages Malibu rates for...
Re:Amazon Pushes Facial Recognition to Police, Critics See S... by SubiculumCode on Tuesday May 22, 2018 @04:20PM (#17129075)
This is unfortunately true. Indeed I think it has to include imprisonment during detox and skill training periods (min 1 year)