I feel like things went the wrong way with "Black Lives Matter". We were just on the crux of a "Police Accountability Matters" movement and then things went a different direction.

I think this article hints at what may have been one of the causes of that change in direction. It appears that Russia faked black radical activism in social media in order to intentionally sow division in the US. But that action plays into the larger current political climate where it's "either you're with us or against us" by default rather than "even if we don't agree on everything, let's make progress where we do agree."

The same people that say "all lives matter" would be saying "You're undermining our cops therefore putting them in danger. You're literally getting cops killed."

The reason why the "all lives matter" people exist isn't because they're honestly misinterpreting the "black lives matter" message. They're dishonestly misinterpreting it. If you worded it differently they would find a different way to dishonestly misinterpret it.

Maybe. Maybe not.

I think there's a middle ground.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v

> I really really dislike those "all lives matter" people.

You understand, that this is precisely the intent. I think the "all lives matter" was a great move by a political group to use another group's ideology against themselves. ("Do all lives no matter, only black lives matter? But you can't explain the motive behind "black lives matter" without losing the narrative).

Similarly even more genius move was "It's ok to be white". If you show outrage against that statement, you lose the narrative very quickly.

Take another example, body positivity activists talk about how magazine and women should depict "real women" instead of photoshopped models. Now lets just say the same group which came up with "All Lives Matter" and "It's ok to be white" comes up with a campaign "This is what a normal woman looks like" (in response to "This is what a real woman looks like"), and they post skinny-ish women in response. This is bound to piss off a lot of people in the outrage movement.

The question this raises is why is it so easy for you or others to get pissed off so easily with these simple, yet technically true slogans, and are they right about something?

"All Lives Matter" is simply a parody movement (albeit more serious) similar to "Harambe" meme, which was created in a response to the Internet petition culture and hashtag movements.

"Black Lives Matter" is short for "Black Lives Also Matter, But You Wouldn't Know It Because Many People Behave As If They Do Not Matter As Much As The Lives of White People"

That is why "all lives matter" is a sarcastic, stupid thing to say in reply.

I wrote a longish response to the GP thread precisely so that it doesn't create confusion, but all I am getting is "But it's stupid to say All Lives Matter".

The GP commenter is straight up giving me a privilege check, would anyone actually read what I said?

This might be parody or a game to you, but for people feeling opressed this is no joke. If you think this is "genius", that provoking people is a game, if you feel a rush when saying or implying taboos, then you're part of the problem.

> This might be parody or a game to you, but for people feeling opressed this is no joke. If you think this is "genius", that being outrageous is a game, then you're part of the problem.

And what makes you think I have no say in how "my problems" are being dealt with white knights like you?

Or a more interesting question, why are you presuming literally anything about me? Is it because I spoke against the narrative?

> why are you presuming literally anything about me?

Saying that "all lives matter" is genius says a lot about you. Also using the expression "white knight" says the same things about you. So it's not that I'm "presuming" anything, you told me things about you.

But tell me more about your problems. I would genuinely like to hear what problems you have that you're dealing with by telling people that "all lives matter".

> Saying that "all lives matter" is genius says a lot about you.

Go somewhere else man, we don't need that on HN.