In Germany, online hate speech has real world consequences

Re:In Germany, online hate speech has real world consequences by anigbrowl on Sunday January 14, 2018 @04:09PM (#16146467)

It sounds like your argument is 'people should ignore our laws against hate speech because we're the people who brought about WW2 and the holocaust, so you shouldn't trust us on this stuff.'

Of more simply 'ignore laws that aim at preventing a repeat of a crime because of the commission of that crime.'

¯\(°_o)/¯

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Re:In Germany, online hate speech has real world consequences by hardwires on Sunday January 14, 2018 @05:21PM (#16146844)

I'm sorry, your analysis is incorrect.

I'm not talking about this fantastic new hate-speech law per se, I'm talking about the broader attitude in Germany where we just expect foreign business to gratefully deal with all of our bullshit, because we really are a bunch of narrow-headed cultural hegemonists.

Imagine if Turkey asked Facebook to enforce Article 301 of the Turkish Penal Code. The reaction in Germany would be widespread ridicule, probably by some of the same people that demand this new law enforced because it's German law.

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Re:In Germany, online hate speech has real world consequences by zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC on Sunday January 14, 2018 @06:17PM (#16147137)

You do understand that one can object to the enforcement of a specific law (whatever country it is from) because one objects to the content of the law without objecting to the idea that souvereign countries can and should generally enforce their laws on everyone who influences what happens within their borders, right?

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Re:In Germany, online hate speech has real world consequences by anigbrowl on Sunday January 14, 2018 @06:16PM (#16147130)

I'm not talking about this fantastic new hate-speech law per se

Then you should have made your general point at the outset. Surely it's clear that the law applies to people providing services to consumers in Germany.

Imagine if Turkey asked Facebook to enforce Article 301 of the Turkish Penal Code.

In Turkey? OK I guess. I haven't bothered to look up Article 301 or even whether it exists since I presume you're making a rhetorical point.

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