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Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by fdgdasfadsf on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @01:30PM (#12969868)
You right to free speech does not include the right for others to disagree with you, for them to not listen to you, or even for them to not like you because of what you say - they are also exercising their own freedom of speech by doing so.

Furthermore traditionally we have drawn line beyond which speech is not free (for example shouting fire in a crowded theatre is traditionally not allowed).

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by clifanatic on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @01:43PM (#12970007)
> You right to free speech does not include the right for others to disagree with you

... I'm going to assume you left out a "not" in that sentence ...

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by blahi on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @01:41PM (#12969980)
>You right to free speech does not include the right for others to disagree with you, for them to not listen to you, or even for them to not like you because of what you say

That's exactly my point!

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by fdgdasfadsf on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @01:44PM (#12970015)
OK cool. But by downvoting they are exercising free speech.

(As an aside I tend to read downvoted comments first because I want to see why they were downvoted. It's more of a highlight than a downvote for me.)

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by blahi on Thursday November 17, 2016 @05:56AM (#12976292)
No, they are unwilling to consider the merits of another point of view. They are doing exactly what they are preaching against. This is why Trump is president. Dismissing everything you disagree with. No point in listening, no point in thinking. You already know what the other side has to say, right? So you listen with half ear and wait patiently to tell them how wrong they are.
Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by fdgdasfadsf on Thursday November 17, 2016 @04:02PM (#12981519)
So would you suggest we should have a safe space where people have to listen to each other?

I will defend people's right to say things I don't like hearing. However I will also defend other people's right to not listen (as long as they don't try to prevent the speech from happening) - that is also a freedom.

To modify a quote: Your liberty to speak ends where I am forced to listen to what you are saying, my freedom to not listen ends where I prevent you from speaking.

Downvoting does not prevent the speech from happening. It merely says I don't like this. Flagging does...

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by blahi on Friday November 18, 2016 @10:00AM (#12987161)
>my freedom to not listen ends where I prevent you from speaking.

But that is exactly what is happening. Liberals, or libtards would be the more correct term, are drowning everything they think they disagree with, creating echo chambers. This is what divided our societies and brought us Trump, Farage, LePen, etc.

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by malnourish on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @12:57PM (#12969529)
Why exactly should safe spaces be burned to the ground?
Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by tunap on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @01:22PM (#12969776)
Not a big issue for me, most media-driven issues have no bearing on my day-to-day directly, luckily. Until noise on the line could be considred an assault on intelligence, I could care less what media-darling group is being given more attention than they merit, but here's my guess:

Because "safe spaces" inspire unrealistic expectations of the real world and foster dependence and normalization of more institutional controls over the rest of the populace, perhaps.

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by toor2 on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @03:20PM (#12971081)
It seems that you don't understand what safe spaces actually are. Safe spaces are places where marginalized groups such as LGBTQAI, racial and religious minorities, etc can express them selves without fear of violence