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Re:Code club Senegal, where women are leading the way by pluma on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @10:54AM (#12166034)
In the West programming started out as a "women's job" because it was just seen as a subset of the general secretary "data entry" job category (i.e. menial work with no long-term career path).

You're right that it is important to not exclusively support women but I don't think this programme is going to tilt the balance dangerously. We're talking about a country that has a literacy rate of 74.2% for men and 56.2% for women, not to mention problems like child labour, child marriages and female genital mutilation[0][1]. A code camp for women isn't going to turn this into a dystopian matriarchy.

I would normally be the kind of person to be called anti-SJW but Senegal is definitely a country that is in a cultural position where Feminism can address significant concerns much like it did in those Western countries over the past century. If there is such a thing as a patriarchal society, Senegal is certainly still an example of it.

[0]: http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/senegal_statistics.html

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Senegal

Re:Code club Senegal, where women are leading the way by rokhayakebe on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @11:34AM (#12166338)
>>If there is such a thing as a patriarchal society, Senegal is certainly still an example of it.

Quite frankly I lived in the US since 2001, and I just got back from Senegal. I can tell you there is not much of a difference when it comes to freedom of choice for women. However there is definitely social pressure.

Also there is a night-and-day difference between the Capital where 30% of the population lives, and villages deep inside the country.

Re:Code club Senegal, where women are leading the way by random_rr on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @10:01AM (#12165645)
Dear god, really? A charity is trying to help 100 women out. That's going to be the tipping point in the battle of the sexes?

Just enjoy the nice act of charity.

Re:Code club Senegal, where women are leading the way by mlieberman85 on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @10:57AM (#12166067)
It goes beyond "programming" though. If the issue was that there's not a lot of programmers in general in Senegal you would have a point. However the article specifically talks about how women are discouraged from these careers and the main issue stems from systemic sexism in Senegal as a whole.

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?Ne...

Re:Code club Senegal, where women are leading the way by andreasklinger on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @10:42AM (#12165924)
Sorry but that argument is shallow. Given it's a throwaway account is assume even just "troll".

It would only work if the work opportunities in that region are perfectly balanced between m/f and there would be no media/culture sharing between western + other world.

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Re:Code club Senegal, where women are leading the way by f978101 on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @02:14PM (#12167640)
Hey, we only like people who are using TOR and negate any anonymity benefits by always using the same pseudonym.
Re:Code club Senegal, where women are leading the way by andreasklinger on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @01:25PM (#12174728)
It doesnt matter who whom likes. The reply OP came across in a way that made me assume his main intent could be "troll".

> I have the unpopular belief that you alone are responsible for your actions. There is a modern oppression narrative that has been used to justify systematic racism and sexism while masquerading as egalitarianism.

Personally disagree here:

Our worldview atm is skewed. The system we use to judge our values is the same that created our values.

Imo: If you want to have egalitarianism you need to actively enforce policies to counter our bias until our value system adapts.

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Re:Code club Senegal, where women are leading the way by sdiq on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @10:42AM (#12165921)
Well, I wish I had enough karma to downvote you, for a start.
Re:Code club Senegal, where women are leading the way by sctb on Tuesday July 26, 2016 @01:00PM (#12167060)
Please do not post such unsubstantive, inflammatory comments here. Not only do we ban the throwaway account in this case, but the main account as well.